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| Re: Texture Mapping and Registration problem with cyclone |
| Before you add the colour to the cloud make sure you select the cloud(s) and do the following.Tools - Scanner - Set Scanworld Default Clouds... Burn the points, restart and all should be fine, I had exactly the same problem.Regards,P |
| Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:06:19 -0600 |
| Re: monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| Geomagic Studio produces rather nice colour coded thematic images using the 3D compare tool, but you can only take screen shots. |
| Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:58:13 -0600 |
| Re: Texture Mapping and Registration problem with cyclone |
| Hi guys,We have bought the new kit and tried to apply the texture to a 6000 scan as described in the leica workflow.Unfortunatly, there is always a shift or a rotation. it would work close up but not far away and vice versa.we tried to use the workflow data provided in the workflow but still there is the issue.Also, when we pause the leica video to have a closer look, they have themselves a shift quite bad at some places. (I.E. 100 to 200 mm on the top of the flexible ducting - black and red - 20m10s into video)Anybody outhere with the same issue.If there is somebody that does have a perfect fit, could you explain your procedure if it differs from the LEICA workflow video.cheersMatthieu |
| Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:58:52 -0600 |
| Re: monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| Thanks a lot guys!!I'll look into these options.Daniel |
| Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:17:19 -0600 |
| Press Release Section |
| Hi AllJust a quick note of thanks to all forum members who work for the laser scanner manufactures in there use of the Press realese section. |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:38:04 -0600 |
| Re: monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| Dan,You can also check the new RealWorks 6.3. You can make inspection of a point clound by comparing it in 3D with a reference point clound or mesh. The result is a point clound. Tomek |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:50:04 -0600 |
| Re: monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| Hi Dan,did you ever check out software like:- Geomagic Qualify or- PolyworksBoth are specialized in creating color-coded distance maps.Also Reconstructor from Italy offers suitable features.Best regards,Oliver B |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:16:58 -0600 |
| Re: monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| Thanks for that.The only issue I've got is that the monitoring I've kad in mind was supposed to be over a large lenght of building. Therefore there would be no monitoring targets and hand picking points is not an option. I would like to have a nice multi colour image showing different colour for the different distance between clouds in the whole lenght of the scan. Obvoiusly the scans would be referenced.Dan |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:10:33 -0600 |
| Re: monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| easy way would to obviously make sure both scans are geo refrenced to the same Control. then either Keep the 2 scans separate, and pick common points and get your x,y,z. and then compare. Or copy one and paste it into the other, (Putting then on separate layers before hand) Then doing a distance measure. I’ve been doing allot of monitoring of utility tunnels during construction and have been using Cyclone for all my work. For the mapping, Polyworks has a neat function that allows you to create a surface from one set of points and then applys an error map to the other. |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:58:45 -0600 |
| monitoring - thematic map of distance differences |
| Hi everyone,I was just wondering if anyone was working on monitoring using laser scanning. The issue that interests me the most is the possibility of calculating the distances between two point clouds. The best option would be to be able to create a thematic map of distance differences. Has enyone came across that kind of software?ThanksDan |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:49:57 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: strange stem axis angle |
| By default the Valve will be inserted with the stem facing the zero angle but this will be the y axis when looking in plan view.To get a stem to line up with the x axis it will need to be set to a rotation of 270 degrees, as the default setting is anticlockwise.Did you check that you are in the correct UCS or the one that you created? Does the 77 degrees match with your origional UCS? if so then you may have to double back to when you set the new UCS and check that you have entered all the information correctly. |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:18:27 -0600 |
| YouTube: StreetMapper on Dutch TV |
| All,You can see a brief news report on the recent visit of 3D Laser Mapping's StreetMapper system to Geomaat in The Netherlands on YouTube:Dutch not being my first language, here is Google's attempt to translate the caption:GRONINGEN - Groningen Geomaat It is the fourth company in the world that a car with laser equipment to measure commitment to country.The advantage of the laser is in the car speed. Measuring country was formerly always by hand, which is very time consuming. The new car does not stand still, but can drive somewhere and, for example, long scratches in the road in a few minutes to capture. On the roof of the car that four laser cameras at 300 meters to the environment very accurately register. The images are processed in the car and after about a week ready in 3D format.The lasers can also be installed boats and trains to the rail network, waterways and mapping.More information on StreetMapper, including the new StreetMapper 360 system, can be found on the StreetMapper website: http://www.streetmapper.netCheers,Joe |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:44:24 -0600 |
| CYCLONE: strange stem axis angle |
| Hi there, i'm having a strange behaviour by the "so famous" CYC .I'm working with my own saved UCS "UCS 0.00", i've made my ucs "the scanworld coordinate system", i insert a valve and i want to put the stem along the X axis (that is my angle 0). As i put 0 in the "Stem axis angle" the stem got an angle tha isn't parallel to the X axis.At the moment i've to insert 77 deg to put the stem along the X axis....how is this possible?ThanksPierpaolo |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:38:26 -0600 |
| Riegl Launches Innovative "V-Line" Scanners |
| Through a worldwide distribution network, including Nottingham based 3D Laser Mapping, Riegl has launched the latest range of innovative laser scanners for 3D mapping from the land, air or road. Using high-speed laser pulses to capture millimetre accurate measurements at ranges of up to 500 metres the V-Line range is set to revolutionise mapping, surveying and monitoring projects. The scanners combine state of the art technical functionality with ease of use and exceptional field performance. The V-Line range are the first laser scanners to offer online full-waveform analysis, digital processing and exceptional data capture rates“The V-Line range offers significantly improved technical performance coupled with Riegl’s trademark usability and field compatibility,” commented 3D Laser Mapping’s Managing Director Dr Graham Hunter. “Its launch in the UK has already generated significant interest from both traditional markets including as-built surveying, civil engineering, city modelling and environmental monitoring.”The Riegl V-Line range of laser scanners combines for the first time the highest accuracy and reliability of measurement with online full waveform analysis and complete digital processing. With scanning rates up to 100 scans per second and pulse repetition rates up to 200 kHz the range also delivers multiple, unlimited target capability and a range of additional options including camera, cableless operation and additional data storage. The V-Line range also includes interfaces for GPS, networking and mobile operation together with high precision time stamping.Riegl has over thirty years experience in the research, development and production of laser rangefinders, distancemeters and scanners. Primarily a technology company Riegl specialise in producing technically innovative solutions for specific applications working in partnership with organisations such as 3D Laser Mapping to produce powerful turnkey solutions for multiple fields of application.3D Laser Mapping is a specialist in laser scanning solutions, the Riegl Premier Distributor for the UK, Ireland and sub-Saharan Africa and the leading distributor of TerraScan software. 3D Laser Mapping integrates laser scanner hardware systems with their own software and peripherals to create robust solutions for sectors such as mapping, mining and manufacturing.Source: http://www.3dlasermapping.com/uk/company/about/news.htmRiegl product pages:VZ-400 terrestrial 3D scanner - http://www.riegl.com/products/terrestri ... scanner/5/VQ-480 2D airborne scanner - http://www.riegl.com/products/airborne- ... canner/20/VQ-250 360 degree 2D "mobile mapping" scanner - http://www.riegl.com/products/mobile-sc ... canner/22/VQ-180 2D scanner - http://www.riegl.com/products/mobile-sc ... canner/21/Joe Beeching |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:07:11 -0600 |
| Tips & Tricks: FARO Scene - "ClearView" feature |
| Dear all,in our monthly e-newsletter for FARO Laser Scanners, we have a section about the small but helpful Tips & Tricks which could make your daily work with laser scanners and point cloud data a little bit easier.To share this information with users who may be not yet enrolled for our newsletter I will post the articles here in the forum.The first article is about a very nice feature of FARO which helps you to present your point cloud data in a very attractive way. This feature is called "ClearView" and available in FARO Scene, FARO Scout, FARO Scout LT and FARO Record since version V4.1.10.2.To find out more, please take a look in the attached PDF file.Best regards,Oliver B |
| Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:51:01 -0600 |
| Re: Topcon Imaging Station video |
| A_F wrote:About my alternative laser scanning instrumentation compare. It's ScanStation 2 from Leica.The specs from Leica quote the surface modelling precision as 2mm (1sigma). Did you achieve that with the SSII or better with the same surface that you tested the IS on?A_F wrote:Maybe my English quite poor – sorry for this. I have mentioned the same, really. Your english is much better than any of my other languages!!A_F wrote:Thanks for your answer. A pleasure. Glad to hear you experiences with the IS.Happy Measuring!Andy |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:12:06 -0600 |
| Re: Polyworks 64 BITS |
| That is a good tracker |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:14:26 -0600 |
| Polyworks 64 BITS |
| http://tracker.postman.i2p.tin0.de/details.php?id????? Please no links to dodgy software. Thanks EDITED |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:47:29 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| Thyanks for the info MarKus |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:32:27 -0600 |
| Re: NEW Imager 5006i ??? |
| I really don't know |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:29:53 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| Hi all,Z+F recommand to use 80% gray and white. The targets need to be matt. Please try a printed Target before you go to a job. From our expiriences we know that different printers can cause different levles of intensity on the gray surfaces. Sometimes the gray looks like the white area. If you laminate the targets please try them in detail also at different angles of impact. They need to be as matt as possible.Please take care that you put the targets onto a flat surfaces. The target finder do not work well if you put the target onto a column. Regards,your Z+F laser team |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:52:42 -0600 |
| Re: NEW Imager 5006i ??? |
| Hi Steven,thank you for your answer about the Imager 5006i.What about the HDS 6000, will you get a new version too? |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:45:23 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| If you are going to laminate them make sure it's a very matt surface.In your original post you address Z+F please note that LFM and Cyclone like slightly differant shades of black.Z+F nearly blackCyclone grey (see PDF) |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:13:26 -0600 |
| Re: Cylone Point Cloud and Model for Z+F Software |
| LFM uses ACIS as its internal 3D modelling kernel so my prefferred method would be as follows:Export from Cyclone as a .coeImport the .coe to AutoCadExport from AutoCad as .sat (.sat is an ACIS 3D solid format)You may have to filter out any text that comes into AutoCad with the .coe because it will not be regognized in the file translation.I think this should work.Matt |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:54:17 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| This File comes with Leica Cyclone and can be found in the programs root directory or you can download it here.The targets can be printed out, numbered and then pasted all over the area you are going to scan. You could even laminate them for use in wet weather. |
| Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:37:09 -0600 |
| Re: FARO PHOTON |
| High Paul.Thank you very much for reading that carefully!!I really mixed up the words. Maybe I was impressed by that many zeros. I hope you can impute it to my poor English language skills... Let me correct myself and stick to the pure numbers:Our highest resolution setting creates a full scan with 40.000 by 20.000 points.Accoring to my calculator this is 800.000.000 points in total.This is still an awful lot of data and beyond the capabilities of a 32Bit operation system like Windows. In real life, users use this resolution only for partial scans if finest details are needed.Sorry for the confusion!Oliver B |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:00:42 -0600 |
| Re: FARO PHOTON |
| 800 billion??? Really? That's an awful lot of data. |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:13:14 -0600 |
| FARO UK Laser Scanning User Meeting |
| FARO UK is pleased to invite you to our Laser Scanning User Meeting which will be taking place at Coventry on 10th December 2008. Date: 10th December 2008 , 10:00 am - 4:00 pmLocation: The Techno Centre, Coventry University Technology Park, Puma Way, Coventry CV1 2TTTo receive more information contact us by telephone on 00 800 3276 7253 or send an email to Paul.Gallagher@faroeurope.com.We look forward to welcoming you as our guest.The FARO UK team |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:06:23 -0600 |
| Road mapping and more highlights at Intergeo 2008 |
| Coventry, UK/7th October 2008 – FARO experienced another highly successful show with Intergeo, the leading trade show for geodesy, geoinformation and land management (Bremen, Germany) from 30th September – 2nd October.Visitors to the booth were especially interested in the advanced features of the new Photon Laser Scanner like a 200 percent increase in accuracy, a highly improved outdoor range and a 300 percent reduction in noise levels compared to the previous model. The FARO Scene software which offers more than 80 percent faster colour capture speed (3 minutes versus 15 minutes of former solutions) for very high quality and automatic overlays of 40 million colour pixels was another main attraction.Presentations on the latest scanning technology trends drew crowds to the FARO stand. These included topics like: |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:03:29 -0600 |
| FARO’s Photon Laser Scanner wins Best-in-Class award |
| Coventry, UK/ 1st October 2008 – FARO’s Photon Laser Scanner has earned Design News Magazine’s Golden Mousetrap Award for excellence in innovation and creativity in product design.The Photon, released in March, was selected as the Best Product in the Rapid Prototyping category for its ability to scan large objects while maintaining a high degree of accuracy. The Photon can produce a 3D image of anything within a range of 0.6 to 76.6 metres. The image data plugs directly into a vast array of prototyping and modelling software, including Geomagic, Polyworks and Rapidform.For more than two decades, the Design News awards the best and brightest in the engineering community with a prize. Based on their expertise in each technology category, Design News editors reviewed the entries, narrowing the selections to 70 finalists and 20 winners. The FARO Laser ScanArm and Quantum FaroArm were also selected as finalists in the Testing and Measurement category.“We are very proud to receive such an important award from Design News,” said Dr. Bernd-Dietmar Becker, FARO’s Director of Laser Scanner Marketing & Product Management. “FARO is pleased to be recognised as one of the innovators in this emerging field. Large scale imaging for concept design and analysis is becoming more and more important amongst engineers.”“Our Golden Mousetrap Awards give innovators the recognition they justly deserve,” said Design News editor-in-chief John Dodge. “We extend our sincerest congratulations to the winners and finalists.”The full list of winners was reported in the 22nd September 2008 issue of Design News Magazine, as well as their online edition . |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:57:39 -0600 |
| Re: NEW Imager 5006i ??? |
| The 5006i is identical visually to the 5006 but has some new hardware componants and firmware, which increases the operating temperature and reduces the noise. |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:23:58 -0600 |
| Re: Cylone Point Cloud and Model for Z+F Software |
| From inside cyclone open a un-unified modelspace containing all the scans, then from the the scan world explorer you can export the transformations back to the the original ZFS files which LFM can read.You don't state which bit of LFM your client has but the above will allow the date to go in.As for the model I'm not sure, Any one else know |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:18:58 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| Matt,Could you upload the pdf here then other members could download the image.Thanks |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:05:42 -0600 |
| Re: NEW Imager 5006i ??? |
| Thank you Phil for the thread...But is there something more, like first picture or something else? |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:12:14 -0600 |
| Re: FARO PHOTON |
| Bonjour Guilhem!Our Photon 20 and 80 scanners work with a constant scanning rate of 120.000 points/second.The effective scanning time depends on the resolution settings you choose for a scan. There you have the choice between about 3 million and 800 billion points per scan.The italian comany you mentioned applies the scanner in a different way. They do not collect single scans from fixed standpoints but have the scanner continously scanning while they drive through the roads. Then the ammount of data depends on how long you scan.The file size you create depends on the chosen resolution per scan and on the scanned objects themselfes. We have a pretty efficient method of compessing the scandata for storing. For example: a scan with about 25million points (= medium resolution) takes only about 45MB to 50MB disk space.Hope that helps!Best regards,Oliver B |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:53:39 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Thanks for that. I should have mentioned we have something called ltbooster already that gives some additional cad functionality, including some basic 3d and rendering tools. I have been wondering whether we would need to get full cad at all with the right modelling software. Am I reading it right that you feel cyclone is the best way to go for the beginner? I was wondering if purchasing the scanstation 2, maybe cyclone topo2 from leica and then rhino and pointools as the modelling package. Does this sound a viable solution? I will be phoning pointools later today for a chat with them. |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:50:16 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| Just sent you a PDF. |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:44:47 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Hi David,Cyclone should Ideally be the core of all your scan processing needs when using a scanstation 2. As your experience evolves im sure you will find other bits of software that will enhance your deliverables. If you are looking for a solution in AutoCad then there is a plugin available called Toolbox LT for AutoCad LT. It will open up more functionality within your LT version of Cad without having to go to the full version. I cant use it at the moment because it is not supported on 64bit AutoCad, and I dont know how it works with Cloudworx but its definately worth looking into.http://www.cadopolis.com/autocad_addons/GlobalCAD_ToolBox-LT.shtmlHappy ScanningMatt |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:35:15 -0600 |
| Re: NEW Imager 5006i ??? |
| Hi Pinhead,Try this thread...viewtopic.php?f=84&t=616 |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:29:25 -0600 |
| NEW Imager 5006i ??? |
| Does somebody heared something about the new Z+F Imager 5006i? |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:27:49 -0600 |
| Re: FARO PHOTON |
| Guilhem, The scan time all depends on the settings on which you collect the data, as it has different density options and therefore will produce the required amount of data. If you don't mind I think it would be better to post these questions within the forum so others can answer and you will get more replies and information. Also if you are really interested then I am sure a demo could be arranged to be undertaken within your office? |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:01:42 -0600 |
| Re: FARO PHOTON |
| Thank you for your answer.Have you any idea of the time needed for a complete scanning with a FARO PHOTON 80 or 20? And the size (in MByte) of the data scanning file(s)?Because I’ve been in touch with an Italian company (sitecoinf.it) and they’ve told me that they recover about 50MB of compressed data or 100MB of non compressed data within 4minutes.Can you confirm these informations with your experience feedbacks?Best regards,Guilhem LARNOULDIng |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:00:24 -0600 |
| Re: FARO PHOTON |
| Guilhem, Faro do not transmit point cloud data via Wi-Fi. If you control the scanner via radio, the files are stored on the internal hard drive and only a JPG preview is transmitted to the mobile device. When controlling the scanner with a notebook via Ethernet connection and the software FARO Record (or Scene), you will get the full 3D point cloud streamed to the notebook hard drive while scanning. For implementing the scanner into bigger systems the user normally wants to control the scanner by his own software. They therefore provide a SKD (free of costs) which enables 3rd party software to control the scanner settings and start and stop scans. In this case the scan data is always stored onto the internal scanner HDD to guarantee fast enough throughput. The 3rd party software can then pull the file via Ethernet from the scanner HDD.Of course, it would also be possible to download the scan files from the scanner via Wi-Fi. In this case it is a question of the bandwidth (They use 'g' as standard) and the time you are willing/able to wait for the transmission of 'X' MB of data.I Hope this helps |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:59:31 -0600 |
| FARO PHOTON |
| We intend to use a FARO PHOTON 20 or 80 on a mobile vehicle and we need to determine the needed bit-rate transfer for the radio-communication (WiFi) to recover the data from the FARO PHOTON to the control computer.Have you any information on the needed bit-rate (MB/s or Mb/s) for the transfer? What is the length of time for an acquisition? What is the size of the file which need to be transferred Best regards,Guilhem LARNOULDIng |
| Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:57:00 -0600 |
| Cylone Point Cloud and Model for Z+F Software |
| Dear all,I've question here:1. We had done scanning using hds6k and do modeling, so here what our client request they need in z+f format to load in LFM software.We had done export the point cloud and model but LFM can't support. Anyone had try before?Can give the some idea / instruction..thanks..ahmad |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:35:27 -0600 |
| Z+F BLack & White Paper Target |
| Dear z+f,Anyone have soft copy for Black & White Paper target? can we get by email.. Thanks.. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:25:55 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Hi DavidYou are right to have concerns about the software which could be considered more important than the hardware.Pointools Viewer Pro is a fantastic compliment to the Cyclone/Cloudworx suit for the production of Ortho images and top class movies but as its name suggests it is a viewer and needs programs like Cyclone to prepare the data for it.The new Pointools model (currently in beta) will be a comptitor of Cloudworx and will be very good when released but there are others Kubit and CloudCube to name two, there is also plug ins for Rhino. Unfortunitly I don't know any pointcloud plug in for Acad that will work with Lt.If your compaines plan for the future take off you will end up needing lots of different software to produce the disired deliverables, but high qulity control and registrations are the key to succesful scanning.Good luck and welcome to the forum. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:15:13 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Thanks for your thoughts, I look forward to your reply. I'm sure I will learn lots here, and I hope to help others out too in time. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:58:13 -0600 |
| Re: Repeated welcome messages |
| I will look into this issue tommorow let me know if it still happens after that |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:52:38 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| I see you have set your sights high and I hope you achieve your aims with the scanner.I will post a more detailed reply to your post some time tommorow as I working in Vienna at the moment the internet connection is not great and keeps going off.I hope you will gain a lot by using this forum |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:51:28 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Thanks for your reply. I understand the difference between phase and pulse, and believe I understand the benefits and limitations of each. Initially we are looking at the scanstation 2 with the intention to purchase something like the hds6000 in the future. We are looking into an absolute plethora of potential scanning clients, ranging from buildings to processing plants and pipes etc. From some of our topographic surveys being scanned (like transport infrastructure) to film and tv sets. I realise that there is one awesome learning curve ahead of us. I am confident that the scanstation 2 is the right way to go, it is just the software that I am not sure about. We currently use no modelling software and only have autocad lt 2006. I understand that if we go down the cyclone and cloudworx route we will need also to purchase full autocad. We have had the leica demonstration on that so I feel I know a bit about that approach, but I only found out about pointool today so know almost nothing about that.EDIT (additional)I forgot to mention that we would like to be capable of rendered 3d models as well as basic models. We also intend to use the scanner as an extra tool on existing elevation and topo jobs whilst touting for dedicated 3d work. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:37:59 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| David,It all depends on what type of object you will be scanning and what the deliverable to the client will be. There is nothing on the market that compares to a ScanStation2 due to the fact it has a dual axis compenstator built-in. Ideally you need both types of system as the two have different advantages and dis-advantages. Do you understand the different types of scanners (Pulsed & phased based) and their different functions and capabilites?As for software Cyclone is an excellent bit of kit now the new version has emgered and Pointools compliments a whole package but before you go out buying more software learn the full extents of what you have already then you will see what extra additons you need. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:16:09 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Thanks for the warm welcome We had pretty much decided on a scanstation 2, with cloudworx and cyclone. The works, but having done some additional research about the software side, things are now anything but clear! Is this software setup really the best option? Pointools looks pretty nifty, and now I feel like I have no time at all to advise the bosses here on which way to go. Can anyone point me in the direction of some good comparison information? Or is anyone prepared to give me any impartial advice on the matter? I know this is asking a lot, but as you can all appreciate this is a big decision with the amount of money everything costs. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:48:16 -0600 |
| Repeated welcome messages |
| I'm getting the welcome pm from the forum every time I log in. Have I missed something I need to do? Have I missed a post somewhere on how to solve this issue? I can't find one.Anybody any ideas on what to do about it? |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:29:59 -0600 |
| Re: Any Photon owner out there? |
| I did not create any thing, I was just looking in this file (http://www.laserscanning.org.uk/data/wall.ptx) and I can't understand the meaning of the plot parameters. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:37:54 -0600 |
| Re: Any Photon owner out there? |
| Hi Guilhem,I would like to help you. But I am a little confused about the 4th decimal number. How did you create this line?Greetings from Germany,Oliver B |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:20:03 -0600 |
| Z+F IMAGER 5006i |
| Z+F IMAGER 5006iDuring the two day event Z+F GmbH and Z+F UK presented several new hardware and software solutions concerning 3D laser scanning, this included the preview of our improved version of the the Z+F IMAGER® 5006, the Z+F IMAGER® 5006i.The Z+F IMAGER® 5006i allows for improved point cloud data quality and is now more resistant to environmental conditions with the ability to operate within temperatures as low as -10°C or as high as 45°C! The scanner can continue to be used within its 'Stand Alone' concept. The integrated battery enables an independent power supply and the data can be stored directly on the internal hard drive.Further to this the Z+F IMAGER® 5006i has a reduced range noise on surfaces of objects which has benefits in the later data evaluation. The difficulties associated with scanning certain surfaces e.g. polished metal are also reduced.In addition to the above, A WLAN interface has been integrated for easier handling of the Z+F IMAGER® 5006i. Other devices such as a notebook, PC, PDA or iPhone can now also be used to operate the scanner and view the scanned data without the use of any additional software.The new IMAGER 5006i also takes account of the increasing trend to use coloured point cloud data and the importance of this in many applications such as Forensics and Architecture. The Z+F IMAGER® 5006i like its predecessor is equipped with the necessary interfaces for connecting a camera to the scanner, enabling the capture of colour point cloud data sets.Best Regards,your Z+F Laser Team |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:56:50 -0600 |
| Re: Any Photon owner out there? |
| Hi,Can any user of FARO PHOTON explain me the meaning of the differents part of the plot list file given above: ? | ? | ? | ? | R | G | B |-7.2300 | -0.0198 | -1.6073 | 0.6253 | 199 | 199 | 199 |Thank you,Guilhem LARNOULD |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:32:32 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F IMAGER 5006EX |
| That looks impressive.Good luck with the development!! |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:30:45 -0600 |
| Z+F IMAGER 5006EX |
| Z+F IMAGER 5006EXThe two German companies DMT GmbH and Zoller + Fr |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:11:04 -0600 |
| Z+F Professional Targets |
| Z+F Professional TargetsThe registration of different scanning positions is a standard task for every surveyor. To accelerate and ease this process, Zoller + Fr |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:46:26 -0600 |
| Re: New to scanning |
| Hi David,Welcome to the forum please do not hesitate to ask for assistance no matter how small of trival you think this may be as we all have to start somewhere. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:08:27 -0600 |
| New to scanning |
| Hi all, my company is about to take delivery of a leica scanstation 2 and I cant wait! There are some great resources and some great people here. I'm looking forward to learning and participating here as I get to grips with what undoubtedly appears to be a great piece of kit. |
| Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:50:27 -0600 |
| Impressive medical 3D modelling |
| Especially of interest if you spend time on two wheels (as I do).http://flickr.com/photos/roentgenator/2450912496/ |
| Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:57:11 -0600 |
| Re: 3D Model of Witanhurst - Pointools4Rhino |
| There were seven elevations in total and each one took about 1-2 days to complete.Thanks for all the positive feedback!Some additional images: |
| Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:54:12 -0600 |
| Custom target mount |
| For those of us whose scanning projects are of an industrial nature, how often do you struggle to find a suitable mounting position for a scan target and end up having to settle for a compromise in terms of location and/or stability? Flat surfaces suitable for the large magnetic bases are never where you need them. The magnetic 'pipe' base is mediocre at best. A tripod is only really an option at ground level, and is prone to knocks. A couple of jobs back I had a flash of inspiration and got a couple of these fabricated. An appropriately sized stainless steel bolt welded onto the back of the handle of a pair of chain clamp vise grips (mole grips) and you have a very solid target position. Good for up to 140mm diameter pipe but mostly used on the ever present handrail or scaffold tubes. All up cost was less than that for a large Leica mag base. |
| Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:10:54 -0600 |
| Re: Topcon Imaging Station video |
| Hi andyevans,About my alternative laser scanning instrumentation compare. It's ScanStation 2 from Leica.The IS has never been sold as anything but what you state. It is a Total station that can be used for scanning. But foremost it is a total station. Maybe my English quite poor – sorry for this. I have mentioned the same, really. Thanks for your answer. |
| Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:02:31 -0600 |
| The International Lidar 09 Maping Forum |
| banner.jpgWorld’s Leading International LiDAR ConferenceRegistration Now Open, Early Bird Rate Deadline - November 30, 2008 REGISTRATION NOW OPEN visit https://www.smartregister.co.uk/events/iexhib/ilmf09/ The ILMF is the premier event for the LiDAR industry attracting professionals from all over the world with the next event scheduled for January 26 – 28, 2009 in New Orleans, USA. The last event saw record growth in attendance with over 580 delegates from 32 countries all looking to invest in and benefit from LiDAR technology and services. Register now to benefit from the early bird rate. Conference focusing on the commercial and technical issues facing the industryThe technical conference focuses on work-in progress reports on all aspects of airborne and bathymetry LiDAR with a particular emphasis on papers that address the key commercial and technical issues facing the industry. To view the conference program visit http://www.lidarmap.org/conference/ Exhibition promoting the leading LiDAR manufacturers, operators and service companiesAlongside the conference is an exhibition consisting of the world’s leading LiDAR system and component manufacturers, operators and software companies. With record interest from companies around the world – this is not an opportunity to be missed for all those who are seriously looking to invest. http://www.lidarmap.org/exhibitorlist/Basics to LiDAR Workshop SeriesStill need more information on the benefits and potential applications of LiDAR technology? The ‘Basics to LiDAR workshop series’ is catering to those that are new to the business and want to find out what LiDAR is, how it works, what the applications are, the cost benefits and how it compares with other mapping technologies. http://www.lidarmap.org/basics/ For more info on any aspect of the event simply email info@lidarmap.org |
| Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:04:23 -0600 |
| Re: 3D Model of Witanhurst - Pointools4Rhino |
| Great work Greg, how long did that take you? |
| Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:51:34 -0600 |
| Re: Introducing myself |
| Nice to meet you |
| Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:39:33 -0600 |
| FARO Earns Six-Laser Scanner Order from Quantapoint |
| THE MEASURE OF SUCCESSDarin Sahler, Global PR ManagerDarin.Sahler@faro.com, 407-333-9911FARO Earns Six-Laser Scanner Order from QuantapointLAKE MARY, FL., November 19, 2008 – FARO (NASDAQ: FARO), the world leader in computer-aided measurement and imaging innovations, sold six high performance Photon Laser Scanners to Quantapoint, a leading provider of laser scanning software and analysis, quality control, documentation and decision-support services.“FARO’s primary value-add is providing a broad range of measurement technologies to support our customers’ operations,” said David Morse, FARO SVP and Managing Director for the Americas. “In this case, Quantapoint is integrating our Photon laser scanners with their own Laser Model™ technology and software to help their customers eliminate preventable project defects.”Citing a high demand for zero-defect services using laser scanning, Quantapoint immediately deployed all six systems for global projects with scopes ranging from entire process plants and buildings to offshore platforms and nuclear facilities.“FARO has a long history of successful measurement technologies,” said Eric Hoffman, Founder of Quantapoint. “The very clear and ‘crisp’ output from the FARO Photon makes it ideal to supplement our existing laser scanner technology and create high-resolution facility Laser Models™ that can be accessed directly using PRISM 3D™ or within various CAD packages using QuantaCAD™.”The Photon, released to the public on February 26, 2008, is the third in FARO’s series of high performance laser scanners. Engineered for surveyors, architects, plant managers and accident investigators, FARO laser scanners provide a fast, simple method for the 3-D data capture and measurement of large objects and environments with exceptional detail.Quantapoint has performed more than 1,200 projects and 150,000 incident-free man-hours for architectural firms, engineering and construction companies, offshore platforms, power plants and process facilities.About FAROWith approximately 18,000 installations and 8,600 customers globally, FARO Technologies, Inc. designs, develops, and markets portable, computerized measurement devices and software used to create digital models – or to perform evaluations against an existing model – for anything requiring highly detailed 3-D measurements, including part and assembly inspection, factory planning and asset documentation, as well as specialized applications ranging from surveying, recreating accident sites and crime scenes to digitally preserving historical sites. FARO's technology increases productivity by dramatically reducing the amount of on-site measuring time, and the various industry-specific software packages enable users to process and present their results quickly and more effectively. Principal products include the world's best-selling portable measurement arm – the FaroArm; the world's best-selling laser tracker – the FARO Laser Tracker X and Xi; the FARO Laser ScanArm; FARO Photon Laser Scanners; the FARO Gage, Gage-PLUS and PowerGAGE; and the CAM2 Q family of advanced CAD-based measurement and reporting software. FARO Technologies is ISO-9001 certified and ISO-17025 laboratory registered.About QuantapointQuantapoint (http://www.quantapoint.com) provides laser scanning technology and services that help our clients achieve Zero-Defect Projects™. We “digitize” facilities using patented laser scanning technology and then use our award-winning Laser Model™ technology to create a high-resolution Digitized Facility™ that can be accessed directly or within various CAD packages. Quantapoint also provides analysis, quality control, documentation and decision support services to eliminate the most common sources of preventable project defects from across the project lifecycle (http://www.quantapoint.com/capabilities). It is Quantapoint’s unique combination of innovative laser scanning technology and professional services that help our clients achieve Zero-Defect Projects™, beating project budgets and schedules by 15% or more and saving millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours. For more information on our technology and services, please visit www.quantapoint.com, e-mail info@quantapoint.com or call +1-412-653-0100.About Quantapoint Laser ModelsLaser Models™ (http://www.quantapoint.com/capabilities/lasermodels) are a unique Quantapoint technology that integrates all laser scan data to provide detailed, high-definition 3D solid “models” of a facility. Laser Models offer clear advantages over older “point cloud” technology, whose sparse data make it difficult to visualize or understand the facility and more likely to miss critical design details. ###Darin Sahler | Global PR ManagerFARO | 125 Technology Park | Lake Mary, FL 32746Office: 407.333.9911 x1229 | 800.736.0234 x1229 | Fax: 407.333.4181Nasdaq: FARO | Darin.Sahler@faro.com | www.faro.com |
| Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:44:33 -0600 |
| Introducing myself |
| Dear all,after being member of this discussion board for more than a month now I would lake to introduce myself.I am the technical product manager for the Laser Scanner product family at FARO.Located in our European headquarters in Korntal-M |
| Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:36:49 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: Patch modelling problem |
| well you know i like the 'not so stright' way Good joband thanks to Steven |
| Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:09:27 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: Patch modelling problem |
| Thanks a lot, all!I choose solution from Steven. |
| Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:36:15 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: Patch modelling problem |
| What a great challenge.Try this, highlight the arc and create object from curves, polyline.next select both the polylines and create object, mergenext select the single polyline and create object from curves, patch.Da Da one curved patch. |
| Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:03:30 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: Patch modelling problem |
| Hi there, well i'm not a good one but i've tryed this:make a rectangular patch that have the corner over corner of the polyline, now using the ALT key and clicking on the edge of the patch you'll be able to add vertex to the patch. now again you could snap the new vertex withe the ones you have obtained from the Create Object->From Curves->Patch.not a good solution but should work... |
| Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:03:36 -0600 |
| CYCLONE: Patch modelling problem |
| It looks like simple operation... But how to do it?I have one polyline and one arc: before.jpgFinally I need to create a patch, using comand Create Object->From Curves->PatchUnfortunately, I got only patch above the arc:after.jpgHow I could create a patch inside the closed poligon? |
| Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:41:09 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Hi,I am contemplating acquiring (or renting for a couple of months) a Photon 80. I would be very interested by your results. Do you plan to disclose them in this forum, and if yes when?Thank you in advance |
| Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:35:56 -0600 |
| Re: Cyclone Server Queries |
| stevenramsey wrote:but I doubt that the internet can be fast enough.Even when using terminal mode? It usually needs not very fast conection... Or not? |
| Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:28:00 -0600 |
| Re: Laser Scanners perform up to 100 scans/second. |
| Hi Paul,not sure on cost, but would be interesting to find out... |
| Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:59:09 -0600 |
| Re: Z+F Imager point cloud plus Spheron colour information |
| Jason,Your software sounds interesting and I would be interested to learn more and see some screenshots.Best regards, |
| Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:44:40 -0600 |
| Re: Cyclone Server Queries |
| Are you talking about Cyclone Server or runing your License server.It would be technicly possible but I doubt that the internet can be fast enough. |
| Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:34:05 -0600 |
| Re: Cyclone Viewer Pro |
| Ahmad,Please find below a link to download cyclone v6.0http://www.leica-geosystems.com/hds/en/lgs_27054.htmYou will need to register with Leica Geosystems to do this but it dose enable you to download the software straight away.The Cyclone 6.0 installer is used to install the following software products:Cyclone 6.0 Viewer (free)Cyclone 6.0 Viewer proCyclone 6.0 ScanCyclone 6.0 RegisterCyclone 6.0 ModelCyclone 6.0 SurveyCyclone 6.0 Server*Individual software products are enabled by the license file issued by Leica Geosystems HDS Customer Support. **Running Cyclone 6.0 with no license enables Cyclone Viewer, Leica Geosystems HDS's free view-only package.Valid Cyclone 6.0 licenses are necessary to run Cyclone 6.0 in non-Cyclone Viewer mode. Customers who do not have valid software maintenance agreements, and would like to upgrade to Cyclone 6.0 should contact the appropriate Sales Representative to purchase an upgrade.Installation Instructions1.) Proceed to download the CycloneSetup6.0.exe file2.) Run CycloneSetup6.0.exeIf you are upgrading to this version of Cyclone software, run the Cyclone installer and select Update/Reinstall.3.) Follow the on-screen instructions and select the software you wish to install.4.) Request a LicenseYou must request a Cyclone 6.0 license if you are upgrading from Cyclone 5.8 or earlier. If no valid license file is present, Cyclone 6.0 will function only as the Cyclone-VIEWER module.To request a Cyclone LicensePlease send an email to license@hds.leica-geosystems.com including all of the following information:1. Your personal information (name, title, company, email address)2. Authorized by: (sales rep / dealer / Leica Geosystems HDS rep)3. Software Module:Cyclone 6.0 (scan, register, survey or model, publisher, viewer pro),Cyclone-SERVER (include number of client concurrencies)4. License Type:Demo or Permanent LicenseFloating or Node Locked5. Attachment of your HostId.txt file.6. If you would like to practice with an existing database then go to Support Downloads and download an Example Database.7. Please also let them know that you have been referred by this forum. |
| Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:53:51 -0600 |
| Cyclone Viewer Pro |
| Phil Marsh wrote:3 March 2008Leica Geosystems Announces Leica Cyclone VIEWER Pro: Affordable 3D visualization, measurement, mark-up and data exchange software for point clouds and modelsThumbGenerate.asp.jpgLeica Geosystems, the market leader in laser scanning products, announced at the SPAR 2008 conference Leica Cyclone VIEWER Pro. This new software includes a powerful set of features for full 3D visualization, measurement, mark-up and data exchange of laser scan data and 3D models – priced very affordably for new, casual, or single-task users.Leica Cyclone VIEWER Pro is intended for new, casual or limited-task users of High-Definition Survey™ (HDS™) laser scan data. This includes staff who may not need to process scan data into models or maps, but who may need to:* perform specific data exchange tasks,* view scan data & models in 3D and extract various types of measurements,* mark-up laser scan and model data.Leica Cyclone VIEWER Pro now adds valuable features to Cyclone VIEWER, Leica Geosystems’ free software for “viewing-only” of 3D point clouds & models. Previously, this group of features was only available in products priced several times higher than Cyclone VIEWER Pro. Now, even beginners, occasional users, or single-task users can benefit from Leica Geosystems quality without having to pay the price of a complete software package or cut back on expectations of performance.Valuable Set of FeaturesLeica Cyclone VIEWER Pro gives users the ability to access native Cyclone point cloud data for measurement or other inspections, for redlining and mark-up, or for back-office operations such as data importing and exporting. This new module isolates the following valuable features:* Full suite of 3D viewing options such as fly-through, limit boxes and rendering options,* Import and Export of all the most important data formats,* Redlining annotation tools,* Wide variety of measurement tools.“Try Before You Buy”Since VIEWER Pro is intended for many new and casual users, Leica Cyclone VIEWER Pro is provided with a free, automatic five-day, one-time trial period. Users who download the Leica Cyclone installer and install Cyclone without any license will automatically receive a 5-day trial license of Cyclone VIEWER Pro.This free trial period approach not only allows users to “try-before-they-buy”, but also supports the growing demand for widespread use of Cyclone-based data by allowing short term data transfer, measurement, and redline mark-up capabilities with no software cost to the end user.Pricing and AvailabilityThis product is immediately available now and pricing is available from authorized Leica Geosystems representatives.Source: Leica GeosystemsWebsite: http://www.leica-geosystems.comHi Phil,Im from Tanjung PetroConsult, Malaysia KL. Our current business is Laser Scanning and Dimensional Survey. How to get installer for Cyclone Viewer Pro? Can we get that installer or trial version for that?Thanks,Ahmad Syalabymsn: ahmad_syalaby@hotmail.comSkype: syalaby8500yahoo: ahmad_syalaby@yahoo.com |
| Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:49:56 -0600 |
| Re: Cyclone Server Queries |
| We have run our sever over the internet, just by telling the .LIC file where to look via an IP address and file location on the server computer, rather than the just by a file location on the host computer.I.eSERVER 86.192.204.55 CYRA=001234567890 -123e 27000VENDOR CYRAKEY "C:\server\CYRAKEY.exe" PORT=4064Hope this is of use.Tim |
| Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:07:33 -0600 |
| Manual for LFM Viewer/Register/Server/Modeller |
| Hi,I would to request manual for LFM Viewer/Register/Server/Modeller. Anyone can give the copy for that.Thanks.. |
| Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:15:21 -0600 |
| Cyclone Server Queries |
| Hi,Can anyone suggest me what kind of Client Server architecture needed for Cyclone server to run. If my server is based in some other city can I access it over a dedicated network like VPN. Regards,Gourango Singha |
| Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:48:03 -0600 |
| New Forum Section |
| A new section has now been added that can be found within each separate manufactures area on the forum.When a post is made within this section it will not show on the top five recent posts so the forum is not overpowered with adverts, therefore the information will be there for members to read if they so wish.It should also be noted that laser scanner prices and availability of scanners should not be discussed by manufactures within the forum as a more advanced technical question and answer session is required rather than a price war. |
| Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:32:21 -0600 |
| Surphaser 3D Scanner |
| Basis Software, Inc markets its own Surphaser 3D laser scanning systems and supplies OEM products for laser scanner manufacturers.Known for its unsurpassed accuracy and scan quality, the Surphaser line offers both short range and medium range models ideal for use in reverse engineering, dimensional control, historical preservation, architecture, and forensics.Surphaser line of scanners employs an adaptable user interface. User has full control of scanning density for the whole scan as well as for separate areas of interest. Software can export clean and accurate 3D datasets into many 3rd party point cloud processing applications. Surphaser products are deployed worldwide, delivering unparalleled precision and value in 3D scanning. |
| Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:20:43 -0600 |
| INTERGEO 2008 & Z+F PRODUCT PREVIEWS |
| This year 15,000 experts from every continent attended INTERGEO® 2008, once again demonstrating the exhibition to be an important international event and trade fair for geodesy, geo-information and land management applications.Z+F's well attended stand at INTERGEO® 2008 managed to impress both existing customers and other interested visitors. The high attendance was also evident of how fast 3D Laser scanning is developing and the important position that Z+F hold in this market.During the two day event Z+F GmbH and Z+F UK presented several new hardware and software solutions concerning 3D laser scanning, this included the preview of our improved version of the the Z+F IMAGER® 5006, the Z+F IMAGER® 5006i.The Z+F IMAGER® 5006i allows for improved point cloud data quality and is now more resistant to environmental conditions with the ability to operate within temperatures as low as -10°C or as high as 45°C! The scanner can continue to be used within its 'Stand Alone' concept. The integrated battery enables an independent power supply and the data can be stored directly on the internal hard drive.Further to this the Z+F IMAGER® 5006i has a reduced range noise on surfaces of objects which has benefits in the later data evaluation. The difficulties associated with scanning certain surfaces e.g. polished metal are also reduced.In addition to the above, A WLAN interface has been integrated for easier handling of the Z+F IMAGER® 5006i. Other devices such as a notebook, PC, PDA or iPhone can now also be used to operate the scanner and view the scanned data without the use of any additional software.The new IMAGER 5006i also takes account of the increasing trend to use coloured point cloud data and the importance of this in many applications such as Forensics and Architecture. The Z+F IMAGER® 5006i like its predecessor is equipped with the necessary interfaces for connecting a camera to the scanner, enabling the capture of colour point cloud data sets.Z+F are dedicated to enhancing productivity and improving the Laser scanning process from targetting, and scanning to delivery. This dedication applies to our hardware and also to the Industries standard, LFM point cloud solution software. INTERGEO® 2008 provided an important opportunity for Z+FUK to demonstrate the enhanced productivity of LFM Modeller version 3.92With the new version of LFM Modeller 3.92 it is possible for the first time to realise the modelling process directly in the 2D-BubbleView. Selection of points in the 3D view which was once a time consuming process can now be avoided as users are now able to select objects in the BubbleView. Standard libraries, whole pipe runs as well as structural steel can also be modelled within a few simple steps. This simple and fast modelling process was exceptionally well received at INTERGEO® 2008 by customers and other interested persons.Other new features of LFM Modeller 3.92 include: * Enhanced survey point clarity * Bubble view multi-element pipe run fitting * Bubble view steel section fitting * Automatic standard object selection within Instant Fitting * Comprehensive standards libraries for extensive range of components * Intelligent connectivity and manipulation for library components * Single-operation loading of bubble and 2D views * 2D lasso for refined point selection |
| Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:23:04 -0600 |
| Z+FUK LFM software integrates with VR context Walkinside |
| UK-based Z+F UK Ltd and Belgium-based VRcontext International S.A. have released an interface for their leading software products -- LFM Server(TM) and Walkinside®, respectively.This interface enables owner-operators in the process, power, and marine industries to import massive volumes of laser capture data of their facilities from LFM Server to Walkinside for visualization and simulation in a complex 3D VR environment. The use of point cloud data within the Walkinside environment will afford owner-operators multiple opportunities to reduce project costs, shorten schedules, and improve safety.Reverse engineering operations can be facilitated by graphically comparing imported point clouds with 3D VR models, and visual clash checks can help prevent expensive incompatibilities between planned construction and existing plant structures."This interface resolves major challenges involved in importing, displaying, and navigating through a mixed data set, and it provides an effective means of CAD file transfer to the VR world," said Graham Dalton, Z+F UK technical director."This innovative solution can help owner-operators improve efficiency and reduce the risks and costs of complex operations," according to Francois Lagae, CEO of VRcontext. "This interface is just the first step our companies will take together to facilitate and automate the creation of 3D models from massive laser capture data."About Z&FZ+F UK (www.zf-uk.com) specializes in providing high-definition 3D laser scanning technology and products to the process and industrial market sectors. Its systems are used extensively in applications as diverse as forensic examination and architecture.About VRcontextVRcontext International S.A. (www.vrcontext.com) is a privately owned company that develops virtual reality software applications for the oil and gas, process, energy, and homeland security markets. |
| Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:18:30 -0600 |
| Re: Close-range scanning service needed in Frankfurt |
| Hi ThereHere at Z+FUK we are specialists in laser scanning, but for the job you're doing it sounds like Surface development & Engineering Ltd might be able to help (www.surfdev.co.uk) We worked with them on a job a little while ago and they were very good. Hope this helps you. |
| Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:06:09 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| We were just playing with the scanstation and pitching some ideas to the local law enforcement outfits.I layed on the ground with a small .380 on the floor next to me. There are also some shell casings on the floor, but they are hard to identify. I get a lot of noise when trying to get a close-up scan of something. I guess it's just the scanstation.CS.jpg |
| Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:50:27 -0600 |
| Close-range scanning service needed in Frankfurt |
| We have a small 'close-range' scanning project in Frankfurt, Germany that does not justify our traveling there from the east coast of the U.S. I am looking to find a service provider in or near Frankfurt that has or can use a FARO ScanArm system, or similar. The project is relatively easy. The object is decorative and about the size of a breadbox (do they still make breadboxes??, here in the U.S. for some reason, a 'breadbox' is often used as a size reference).If you can help, or know someone else that can, please email me. Thanks,Michael RaphaelPresident & Chief Engineer |
| Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:11:21 -0600 |
| Re: 3D Model of Witanhurst - Pointools4Rhino |
| nice one Greg, good to see APR up to their usual high standards. |
| Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:57:04 -0600 |
| Re: 3D Model of Witanhurst - Pointools4Rhino |
| excellent work Greg.... thanks for contributing to the forum.. :O) |
| Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:45:33 -0600 |
| 3D Model of Witanhurst - Pointools4Rhino |
| Here is a 3D model of Witanhurst the former home of BBC’s Fame Academy and second-largest house in London after Buckingham Palace. It has 65 rooms including 25 bedrooms and a 40,000 sq ft grand ballroom.All modelled using pointools4Rhino and Rhino.Rendered using Rhino Render. October 2008. Highgate, North London, UK. Pointools4Rhino and Rhino.Click on attachments for larger view. |
| Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:32:50 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Hey Guys,great Scans! I always knew that the scanning guys are good guitarplayers Good to know that I'm not the only one who fools around with expensive Equipment..Don't know the exact Price of the Photon...about 70.000ˆ or so? Great Tool and superfast..Anybody else got Scans of himself? Let me see..Have a nice evening and greets from Vienna,Ciao Lothar |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:53:50 -0600 |
| Re: Problems after creating a mesh |
| stevenramsey wrote:Could I suggest an alternative method.When you have your 2 (or more) mesh's try creating a new pointcloud from the mesh and merge the 2 (or more) pointclouds. then mesh the new single point cloud. that should sort out the long triangles.That is a great Idea. So obvious, yet overlooked. Thank you for pointing it out. I will let you know how it works out!However, I am still curious about the TIN Overlap Threshold command. Anybody have any feedback on this? |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:48:34 -0600 |
| Re: Problems after creating a mesh |
| Could I suggest an alternative method.When you have your 2 (or more) mesh's try creating a new pointcloud from the mesh and merge the 2 (or more) pointclouds. then mesh the new single point cloud. that should sort out the long triangles. |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:08:32 -0600 |
| Re: South African (Irish) New Member |
| Bill,Got you email, thanks.Strongly advise attending the Leica HDS user conferenc in California next year.Attended this year and learned a lot. Regards,Kevin HannaU.S. /Kingscourt Co. Cavan |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:44:52 -0600 |
| Re: Problems after creating a mesh |
| Can anyone explain to me what the "TIN Overlap Threshold" in the Edit Preferences /Modelspace menu is? It defaults to 0.003' , but if I set it to 10.00' this is my result:After_threshold.jpgI'm just curious about the settings and effects of the TIN Overlap Threshold command.Thanks,-Dustan |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:15:29 -0600 |
| Re: Problems after creating a mesh |
| Can you change the maximum edge length of your triangulation? |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:03:48 -0600 |
| Re: Laser Scanning Services |
| Phil,I don't think the client had a copy of the video, I just enjoy making the fly-throughs! We used the Z420i, I think around 30-40 setups (I usually manage 20ish per day when I'm with a surveyor to ob my targets and provide control). For a job like this I use multiple pass scans to increase accuracy and thus increase time, but as it was all relatively short range 10-20 minutes per setup is more than enough.The issue with this job was that the buildings were high and the roads narrow, meaning I had to setup in lots of strange places (tow path, tops of walls, flower beds) to try and get the top of all the buildings. Cheers,Dan |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:26:16 -0600 |
| Re: Problems after creating a mesh |
| You said that you had set the up direction but it looks as if it may still be wrong.You could try by setting a reference plane and then setting a temporary UCS on it to make sure you have the up direction set.Otherwise I have not seen this before. |
| Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:14:18 -0600 |
| Re: Problems after creating a mesh |
| Here is a new project I have been working on, and as you can see, not going so smoothly.Mesh1.jpgMesh1_after.jpgI have had success joining two meshes before, but it doesn't seem to want to work this time. I have tried doing it in smaller sections, but it doesn't help. I had to adjust the datum of one of the meshes, and that is why I now need them to go back together. I have tried creating verticies with the sample grid option, but it does the same thing. When I started this thread, I was working on a different project, and the mesh only had one of the lines that you see. However, this one has many. During the previous project, I was also working with only one mesh.Mesh1_after_wire.jpgThose lines that you see are deep cuts into the surface. All over my mesh. Any feedback is welcomed.Thanks,-Dustan |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:10:32 -0600 |
| Re: Laser Scanning Services |
| Hi Dan,I like the Chelsea Harbour scans. Did you give the client this video and an extra for them to use.How many scans did this take and how long, all so what scanner did you use? |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:08:14 -0600 |
| Re: Serving up a billion points of light in AutoCAD |
| The plug-in is now available for download. Just visit http://www.pointools.com/ptmodel_intro.php and enter your email in the notification box. A minute or so later you should receive an email with a download link.It'll run til the end of the month by which time we'll have another update to include point object snapping, better sections and a few other goodies.Enjoy! |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:15:44 -0600 |
| Re: South African (Irish) New Member |
| Welcome Bill and look forward to your imput. |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:18:56 -0600 |
| South African (Irish) New Member |
| I would like to introduce myself to the forum and hope that I can be extensively useful to its purpose.My Name is Bill Rice from a company called Fast Track Projects, we entered into the laser scanning arena in 2004 when we purchased our 3D Guru from Visi-Image. We have used Cyclone to register our scans and manipulate and model the pointclouds. More recently weve partnered with the Leica group in SA and rented the HDS 3000, Scanstation and HDS 6000. Our main area of focus is the process plant environment and producing 3D CAD model deliverables for our clients. The deliverables are produced using AutoCAD and its vertical applications, like CADWORX, and Aveva's Vantage Design product (PDMS). Weve completed over 50 projects mostly in SA but also in Ireland and Australia for a company called Alcan engineering where we setup their dimensional control department with their design office. |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:15:36 -0600 |
| Re: Laser Scanning Services |
| Hi Phil,Glad you like them, I will post some more in the coming weeks. It's nice to get some feedback from guys in the same industry.The stadium is the Abu Dhabi national football stadium, I scanned it with a Riegl Z420i, one scan in the centre circle, 45 minutes. It was a quick demo for the manager there, and about 40 degrees so I went a hid in the shade! Our second trip out there was even hotter and the scanner refused to work at over 50 degrees (I can't blame it really).Chelsea was two days scanning, for an architectural firm. They wanted elevations of all the stone clad buildings. The fly throughs are just for fun, made in Pointools. |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:36:33 -0600 |
| Laser Scanning / 3D modelling / Survey / Dimensional Control |
| http://www.warnerlandsurveys.net/ |
| Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:09:24 -0600 |
| Re: Topcon Imaging Station video |
| HiThanks for your complimentary comments. I will add a little detail and brief explanation.A_F wrote:I would like to give more details about scanning mode in Topcon IS. All my words will relate only with scanning mode. Other things I haven't tried so detail. It is really interesting mode in IS. It has some settings, which has influence on results of scanning.To get more detail about scanning in Topcon IS I've scanned one piece flat wall. Then I've analyzed it in Cyclone, creating the patch.Now about the results:1. When using EDM in "coarse" scanning mode it really fast scanning – about 20 points per second. But quality is not so good – you could see the missed points and scanning grid is not regular. Also horizontal distances between the nearest points are not stable. Please, see the picture below. "Region growing" in Cyclone gives error of Std Deviation is 4 mm.Take a look at the specs of the EDM measurement in the fastest scanning mode. You will see it is quoted as being +/- 5mm. So the fit you get from Cyclone confirms these figures in your tests. How do the results from your alternative laser scanning instrumentation compare?A_F wrote:2. All of that changes when we switch EDM to "fine" mode. The quality of data increasing significally. Scanning grid is going more stable, data more correct, no missed points. Region growing gives less error (Std Deviation is only 2 mm). Unfortunately, the speed of scanning in this case about 1-2 points per second.As you have shown, if you want more accuracy then you can sacrifice some of the scan speed. The bottom line here is that you are achieving this with a robotic total station at robotic total station prices.A_F wrote:Really, scanning total station is the great idea. But, you needn't to idealize it. Don't wait some unreal things from these devices. First – it total station and then, maybe, scanner.The IS has never been sold as anything but what you state. It is a Total station that can be used for scanning. But foremost it is a total station. Our customers are getting some great results take a look in the latest ICES Magazine for a nice example.Please get in touch for further information if you need to.Happy Measuring!Andy |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:37:58 -0600 |
| Re: Laser Scanning Services |
| Dan,This is impressive work did this take long to scan?What was the clients deliverables just a point cloud or did they request a fly through? |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:34:24 -0600 |
| Re: Laser Scanning Services |
| Dan,How long and how many Scans did this take? |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:31:02 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| I'm usually lurking in my point clouds somewhere,here pictured working very hard, lying in the long grass on top of a mountain in Wales, it was freezing.it was a long scan ok!? |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:30:52 -0600 |
| Re: Scanning at negative temperatures |
| Hi all!I'd like to push this topic up - winter coming Some times ago I have recieved info about winter clothes for HDS3000/SS1Maybe this info will useful for some people.Please, see attachment. |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:02:20 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| I have also scanned myself! |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:35:06 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Its nice to see I'm not the only one who scans myself with guitar guitar3.jpg |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:12:13 -0600 |
| Laser Scanning Services |
| Hi,After a few years of working in the industry I have setup a small company to do freelance laser scanning, post-processing and 3D modeling work. I have access to various software, please see my profile for a list. I have a lot of experience with the Riegl Z420i, and also the Faro and Leica scanners. I have worked closely with APR Services in the past, in addition to two years at a security consultancy. I have had the opportunity to see projects through from the initial data collection to processing, drawing, modeling and visualisation. Projects include; oil refineries, sports stadia, land and building surveys, internal and external visualisations, beach monitoring and data collection for use in video games.Please get in contact if there are any potential projects I may be able to assist you with, or if you would like examples of my work.A sample of my previous work is available at: http://uk.youtube.com/dancutlerRegards,Dan CutlerDRC |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:51:24 -0600 |
| Re: Point clear view |
| Hello again Jos |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:31:31 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Whether its 'Decent' or not i guess you'll have to decide for yourself!!! |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:37:43 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| I think this should link to it!viewtopic.php?f=55&t=477 |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:35:48 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Only if it's a decent one! LOL |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:33:05 -0600 |
| Re: Point clear view |
| Dear Jose,I am happy to hear that you like this unique feature of our FARO Scout software!By the way: it is also available in FARO Scene, FARO Record and FARO Scout LT.Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how it works in detail.Concerning your problems with it after displaying additional scans, I will report to our R&D department and have them look for a solution.Could it be that you do not have the latest release of our software? The current release number is 4.5.20.2 (see "Help - about").Whenever you are facing issues with our software (hardware as well, of course) the best and fastest way to get help is to send an email to our customer service. Their adress is: support@faroeurope.comI am reading this board on a regular basis. But still it is not guaranteed, that I will find each message.Thank you for your feedback!Best regards,Oliver B |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:14:22 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Post the scan of yourself then Tim ! |
| Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:37:55 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Its nice to see i'm not the only one who scans myself! |
| Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:07:45 -0600 |
| Re: New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Hi Lotar, nice scans!A couple of questions, can the Photon acquire textures too? And, more or less which is it price range Thanks for sharing!!CiaoAle |
| Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:20:43 -0600 |
| Re: Usage Statistics for laserscanning.org.uk |
| October 2008.bmp |
| Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:57:08 -0600 |
| Point clear view |
| Does any of you know which computer graphics technique is behind the so called "clear view" in FARO scout?. It is beautiful... but badly implemented.We're trying to get this working into UVACAD but not succeeding by now.It is annoying to see how extrange behaves the FARO viewer in this mode. I've noticed it works well with one single scan loaded, but turns off if you loaded a second one. Then you'll get it back only if you tunr the digitizer positions on...But the worse thing that happens is that the points are rendered in reverse order so the most distant points are overlayed on top of closer ones... thanks and regards. |
| Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:36:36 -0600 |
| TSA New Website Launched |
| The Survey Association (TSA) has launched a new and vastly improved website. There is a lot of useful information on the site, presented in a clear and easy to navigate style.Surveying is a truly 21st Century business and we aim to promote it and our members. They have also enhanced the site for the ever-expanding membership. The Members Only Area provides a wealth of useful information, documents, resources and also a brand new forum. This discussion area is a useful tool for those with questions, issues and advice to share.Visit them at http://www.tsa-uk.org.uk |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:39:48 -0600 |
| Re: Forum Header Banner & Logo |
| I once came up with this design but failed to take it one step further and create some thing eye catching with good quality design graphicsImage.jpg |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:15:35 -0600 |
| Forum Header Banner & Logo |
| Can anyone design a good banner header or logo for this forum?With all the creative deisgn members we have some one must be able to come up with an eye catching logo or banner for the forum!We can then have a fresh new look to the site ! |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:05:48 -0600 |
| New Here - Diploma Thesis on the New Faro Photon 80 + Pic! |
| Hey guys,I'm a 28 old Guy from Vienna Austria and i found this forum while doing some research for my diploma thesis..I'v tested the New Faro Photon 80 at the Vienna Technical University and at the moment I'm writing down my results..well the Photon really is a great Tool..i measured a Net with a Leica TCA 2003 and then scanned it with the Photon..i also scanned a big, heavy high finish stone plate that was measured by the Faro Lasertracker X before - and i compared it in qualify..also checked the Tiltsensor with 4 leveled 25 m far Spheres...And i had myself scanned by the Photon..check out the images Nice to be here..hope to see some great scans from you..Ciao LotharScreen1.jpgLothar2.jpgLothar14.jpg |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:48:33 -0600 |
| Re: Scanning polished or chrome pipes |
| You can carry masking tape for small areas. (The white paper sticky tape that has low adhesion)Easy to put on, thin, reflects well (matt surface) and most importantly is very easily removed without damaging paintwork etc.Either wrap it round the cylinder in places and join those later in processing, or put stripes of tape along the length of the pipes. Obviously if there are lots of pipes, or they are very large this method is not ideal. |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:42:22 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: problem with pipe visualisation |
| Most screen rendering problems like scans looking like the wrong colours or strange arcifacts left on screen. |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:55:27 -0600 |
| Re: CYCLONE: problem with pipe visualisation |
| stevenramsey wrote:You will be amazed at how many problems are solved by setting a different OpenGL mode.For example? It's really interesting... |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:43:40 -0600 |
| Re: Topcon Imaging Station video |
| I would like to give more details about scanning mode in Topcon IS. All my words will relate only with scanning mode. Other things I haven't tried so detail. It is really interesting mode in IS. It has some settings, which has influence on results of scanning.To get more detail about scanning in Topcon IS I've scanned one piece flat wall. Then I've analyzed it in Cyclone, creating the patch.Now about the results:1. When using EDM in "coarse" scanning mode it really fast scanning – about 20 points per second. But quality is not so good – you could see the missed points and scanning grid is not regular. Also horizontal distances between the nearest points are not stable. Please, see the picture below. "Region growing" in Cyclone gives error of Std Deviation is 4 mm.Picture 1.jpg2. All of that changes when we switch EDM to "fine" mode. The quality of data increasing significally. Scanning grid is going more stable, data more correct, no missed points. Region growing gives less error (Std Deviation is only 2 mm). Unfortunately, the speed of scanning in this case about 1-2 points per second.Picture 2.jpgReally, scanning total station is the great idea. But, you needn't to idealize it. Don't wait some unreal things from these devices. First – it total station and then, maybe, scanner.Thank you! |
| Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:44:33 -0600 |
| Re: Windows 7 |
| Hey,I have kept an eye on it, in beta testing at the minute, should be out in a few months. Supposedly runs a lot better on less powerful machines which should be good, Vista is a pig when used on a laptop and XP runs a lot better in general. The G |